Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Searchtruthseeker
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- Suspected sock puppeteer
Searchtruthseeker (talk+ · contribs · deleted contribs · tag · block user · block log · CheckUser)
- Suspected sock puppets
- Verdadeverdadeira (talk+ · contribs · deleted contribs · tag · block user · block log · CheckUser)
- 189.6.81.52 (talk+ · contribs · deleted contribs · tag · block user · block log · CheckUser)
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- Evidence
Almost identical contributions profiles (see Special:Contributions/Searchtruthseeker and Special:Contributions/Verdadeverdadeira), the names even seem related ("Verdade Verdadeira" in Portuguese means "True Truth"), and always in the same articles (Afro-Brazilian, Sub-Saharan DNA admixture in Europe, Joaquim Maria Machado de Assis; see also White Brazilian, White American and Pardo for edits with the same agenda).
- Comments
Searchtruthseeker was blocked by User:Icairns, at 15:09, 2 September 2008, with an expiry time of 31 hours (Vandalism: Replacement of sourced info with unsourced info), which would end at 22:09 3 Sept. Verdadeverdadeira created his account (escaping his account creation block) in 18:16, 3 September 2008. The Ogre (talk) 13:34, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I have provided accurate information, and links, and yet the Ogre is after me, this is a free encyclopedia, and I have complied with the rules I am willing to comply with the rules. I have posted accurate information with sources. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Verdadeverdadeira (talk • contribs) 17:06, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- That may be so. But that has nothing to do with what is being discussed here. What is being discussed here is that you are supected of being a Searchtruthseeker sockpuppet. The Ogre (talk) 17:16, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
"That may be so". I should open a case against you, because you admitted trolling. You have admitted that you are after me, even though I have provided accurate information and sources. But I won't. I stand here to comply the rules, and to post accurate information. I have given credible sources and yet you have removed that information without explanation. That's trolling. Verdadeverdadeira signed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Verdadeverdadeira (talk • contribs) 17:23, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- My friend, be polite. My "That may be so" refered to the fact that some of your edits present credible sources. And please sign your posts correctly with 4 tildes (~~~~). The Ogre (talk) 17:31, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Verdadeverdadeira, you do not need to create many accounts to write in Wikipedia, it is not necessary. Moreover, you have to learn how to write in the wikipedia. Your contributions are full of written mistakes, confusing. You also must be impartial. There were IPs erasing facts about non-White admixture in White Brazilians and also claiming African ancestry in European populations. They seem to be the same people you are. Again, be impartial. You were also talking about Tiazinha in an article about White Brazilians. Please, this is a really nonsense. What will a person do when reading a "serious" article which talks about Tiazinha? Please, they will laugh. Opinoso (talk) 22:01, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- The Tiazinha data came from a source that can be verified and accepted as credible in this specific case. Tiazinha is a well-known sex-symbol and she is so important as Neguinho da Beija-Flor, Diane dos Santos and other people used as example in the article. The are many more things laughable in Wikipedia. On the other side I agree that Verdadeverdadeira texts should be better written and referenced. I believe that is a very strange case because Verdadeverdadeira has a much better text here than in the articles he wrote. The focus point is that the new information that Verdadeverdadeira brought doesn't make the old information untrue; both are different results of the same issue with similar conclusion. Thus, we can´t accept the way the erased old information in the articles. However, I´ve seen people with more disruptive behavior running wild and free in Wikipedia. Quissamã (talk) 02:14, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Verdadeverdadeira is not neutral, because he is trying to "white-wash" the "Whites" of Brazil. Wikipedia is frequently attacked by these trolls who like to "white-wash" articles. He seems similar to the poor editor who was trying to "black-wash" Brazil, claiming a Black president to increase his own self esteem. It makes me sad that some Blacks in Brazil still believe they need to show a notable person to the society to claim their own and feel better. These trolls are really boring and just denigrate Wikipedia. Some of them are Brazilians and claim to be "scientists" but do not even know who Machado de Assis (how is it possible?) was. Yes, it is possible to find them around and laugh at them.
- Well, we have to agree that Verdadeverdadeira can, at least, write a proper English. He does not need to use "online dictionaries" to write a basic sentence in English and, still, make terrible mistakes. Anyway, all these trolls should be blocked. All these non-neutral "white-wash", "black-wash" people must be out of Wikipedia. Opinoso (talk) 04:10, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Verdadeverdadeira is not neutral, because he is trying to "white-wash" the "Whites" of Brazil. Wikipedia is frequently attacked by these trolls who like to "white-wash" articles. He seems similar to the poor editor who was trying to "black-wash" Brazil, claiming a Black president to increase his own self esteem. It makes me sad that some Blacks in Brazil still believe they need to show a notable person to the society to claim their own and feel better. These trolls are really boring and just denigrate Wikipedia. Some of them are Brazilians and claim to be "scientists" but do not even know who Machado de Assis (how is it possible?) was. Yes, it is possible to find them around and laugh at them.
- The Tiazinha data came from a source that can be verified and accepted as credible in this specific case. Tiazinha is a well-known sex-symbol and she is so important as Neguinho da Beija-Flor, Diane dos Santos and other people used as example in the article. The are many more things laughable in Wikipedia. On the other side I agree that Verdadeverdadeira texts should be better written and referenced. I believe that is a very strange case because Verdadeverdadeira has a much better text here than in the articles he wrote. The focus point is that the new information that Verdadeverdadeira brought doesn't make the old information untrue; both are different results of the same issue with similar conclusion. Thus, we can´t accept the way the erased old information in the articles. However, I´ve seen people with more disruptive behavior running wild and free in Wikipedia. Quissamã (talk) 02:14, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Verdadeverdadeira, you do not need to create many accounts to write in Wikipedia, it is not necessary. Moreover, you have to learn how to write in the wikipedia. Your contributions are full of written mistakes, confusing. You also must be impartial. There were IPs erasing facts about non-White admixture in White Brazilians and also claiming African ancestry in European populations. They seem to be the same people you are. Again, be impartial. You were also talking about Tiazinha in an article about White Brazilians. Please, this is a really nonsense. What will a person do when reading a "serious" article which talks about Tiazinha? Please, they will laugh. Opinoso (talk) 22:01, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
People! Please! This is not the place to have such discussions, but only to acertain if Verdadeverdadeira is a sockpuppet for Searchtruthseeker! The Ogre (talk) 11:09, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- <Irrelevant comments and personal attacks removed. — Satori Son>
- I won't even bother to respond to you personal attacks and deluted views of the world. Again this discussion is only about the fact that you are a sockpuppet of Searchtruthseeker. AND PLEASE, FOR THE FOURTH TIME, REMEMBER TO SIGN YOUR POST PROPERLY!!! The Ogre (talk) 14:30, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Conclusions
- Obvious socking. Sock blocked indef, IP blocked 2 weeks, Sockmaster blocked two weeks and given a stern warning about NPOV and edit warring. — Coren (talk) 01:34, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]